yes. yes I do. In fact - although I feel a living creature needs to be a mammal at least, to be respected as having a personage and rights - still, when I catch a bug, I gently carry him to the door and put him outside. Life is life. And unless it's a matter of survival (genuinely), killing isn't a right anyone has.

It is.

Yeah.

Not if it's done for hunger, infestation or self-defense.

I wouldn't kill a pigeon

No. The definition of murder is when one PERSON kills another PERSON. Shooting animals is called HUNTING.

Yes.

Flying rats

Killing any innocent organism is murder.

My wife hates pigeons. I'm sure she would love to kill them.

You never heard of squab? It's a delicacy for a lot of high-end people. Unless you prefer to eat a pigeon raw, killing it is the best way to go. Did you know cows are shot as well (At least they were at the processing plant I saw.)? But it doesn't sound like you like any other meat, either.

I take it you have never worked in a building pigeons have invaded. Everything is covered with pigeon poop! They soon become used to those things used to scare them away and just sit there. It might not be murder per say, but it comes pretty close.

I know it's not. Murder: "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another". SO: anyone who thinks that is murder has - unilaterally - redefined the meaning of the word. *** Is it an immoral killing? That depends on why the pigeon is killed...but whether or not it is immoral, it is (literally, by definition) not murder.

Feral pigeons can carry up to 60 different varieties of pathogens at a time, (more than rats) placing us all at risk of catching a dangerous disease or a life-threatening illness. Psittacosis - is caused by the bacterium C. psittaci which is highly infectious and able to spread rapidly. Causing High temperature, Tight chest and difficulty breathing, A persistent dry cough, Chills and fatigue, Blurred vision, Aches and muscular pains, Coughing up blood. It can lead to more serious respiratory disease and cause death, inflammation of the brain tissue, and irreversible brain damage. Histoplasmosis, - caused by the fungus Histoplasma, highly infectious, symptoms are A dry cough, Fatigue, Dull headaches, Muscular aches, Chills, Fever. Most recover within two weeks, unless complications due to weakened immunity. Cryptococcosis - is caused by a fungus named Cryptococcosis neoformans and can present itself in various forms, attacking different parts of the body depending on the type. The pulmonary form of the virus attacks the lungs and leads to respiratory difficulties and infections, with common symptoms including: Tight chest, Fever, Chills, Dry cough, Headaches, Fatigue. If left untreated or not treated quickly enough, cryptococcosis can spread around your body to the brain, kidneys, and skin. Unfortunately, if this occurs, the symptoms become much worse and your chance of death increases. As well as the above signs, the more severe symptoms include: Hydrocephalus, Failing sight, Papules across your body, Ulcerous sores, Nausea, Confusion, Double vision, Cold sweats, Swollen glands, Skin rash, Weight loss, Internal bleeding, Abdominal pain and swelling, Numbness in extremities. In the most severe cases, cryptococcosis can turn into meningitis which can cause life-threatening blood poisoning or result in long-term, permanent brain or nerve damage. E. coli (Escherichia coli), as it is most commonly associated with food poisoning. However, it is also carried and spread by pigeons. Unlike cryptococcosis, most cases of E. coli infections are not life-threatening. Most people who ingest the bacteria are able to fight off the infection on their own in less than a week. However, those who are more susceptible to illness may find themselves with lasting complications in the form of kidney failure. Symptoms, Fatigue Shakiness, Abdominal pain and cramps, Diarrhoea, Nausea. Salmonellosis is very similar to E.coli. The infection comes from the bacterium salmonella, which is also a common cause of food poisoning. Most people who contract the bacteria are able to fight off the disease themselves in less than a week. The symptoms of salmonellosis are the same as those listed above for E. coli. The primary method of transmission is droppings. Pigeons congregate and perch on buildings, windowsills, and ledges across our country and wherever they go, they leave their droppings, also commonly referred to as guano. Over time, these droppings dry up and turn to dust. These contaminated dust particles then become airborne and are inhaled regularly by passers-by as they’re kicked up via footsteps or the wind. Once contaminated particles reach the lungs, they are absorbed into the bloodstream. Now they’re in your blood, the bacteria or fungus can spread around the body and cause an infection or disease, like the ones mentioned above. This can also happen from directly coming into contact with pigeon droppings. Droppings are a nuisance; they get all over your windows, and on the ground below. If you attempt to clean pigeon droppings on your property, wear a face-covering to prevent inhalation, wash your hands, and disinfect the contaminated area.

they are vermin around here. Ive been in many roofs full of pigeon shit. They should never have been brought here.

As someone on here says, it’s only murder if a person kills another person. When a person kills a pigeon, it’s called animal cruelty as it takes away the pigeon’s right to live. It is morally wrong for anyone to kill an animal or creature but if it’s dangerous and attacks or kills a person, the animal or creature should be muzzled and put in either a cage or in its natural habitat. Pigeons are innocent and should be left alone. Leave them be and allow for these pigeons to have dignity. They are free to fly around and walk along the ground.

No, not if you shoot it for food. 12/8/22

Murder is a legal term, not a moral one. It means the intentional unlawful killing of a person. Person is another legal term, with a complex definition. Pigeons aren't considered persons by the law, or by anyone I know. There are some truly awful people I wouldn't sacrifice a pigeon to save...but there's nobody I would kill just to save a pigeon.

Yes.

Pigeons are vermon around here they all should be shot along with the idiot that brought them into the country in the first place.